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Now, the next program, pie in the sky.

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I saw this thing going for what people say, you know, there was really, it felt like a railway

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carriage.

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Yes, it felt.

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It started up over here there, and I thought, knocked it right out of sight, right over

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the hill.

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But I looked in that direction, there was a cellar of a plane, and a pink one, like a

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between the pink and the red, silly colour, then.

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That's very, very sorry.

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And I looked in that direction, and there was no time for me to look around too.

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I looked at the noise, the over-noise it was.

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But then, came back down, you know, it was a bit misty, funky.

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And, well, it was like a tin can of slow-looking boats, you know, and somebody was that late

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there.

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What I did see was a green shimmering light for that quarter an hour.

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That's how it was explained, it was like a bright light with a red light in the middle.

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It's a garish shape.

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Glory had it changed.

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I saw something under there between those two pluggalers, and to me, it looked like it

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was about 500 feet high.

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No, it seemed to be hot things.

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It resembled something like a comet, but comets are white, so this one is orange, oval colour,

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so it certainly won't be a comet.

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So very well might be something in the stratosphere.

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I mean, we're sending spaceships to our planet, and I can't do any reason why if there is life

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on another planet, they shouldn't be sending a craft to us.

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Obviously, these things, whatever they are, are infinitely maneuverable, and they're

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certainly beyond now a bit of these camps.

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We can't put salt on that table, it won't work.

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Tell me what you saw.

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Yes, it's obviously a little starry.

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What did it look like?

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Like a saucer.

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Yes, and whether any lights were in the right place.

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No, it's just the right object of this show.

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We were busy in here, but we had to come back in, so the three soldiers were there,

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whether it was a sailor or a sailor, and they just spiked it more or less like lampshades.

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I've always seen it, and it's convincingly, I still don't think there's anything to it, as well.

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I think it's just a little trick.

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A white object, like a saucer, a bright light with a red light in the middle,

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a lampshade, a railway carriage, or just a loaded tripod.

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That's how people in and around Warminster and Wiltshire have been describing the strange sights and signs

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that have been a feature of local life for quite a while now,

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reaching something of a peak during the summer and autumn of 1965.

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Warminster is a thriving market town on the edge of Salisbury Plain, a shopping centre,

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and a stopping-off point for motorists on their way west.

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The odd things that have clearly been happening here have been plenty of disagreement about the explanation of it.

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We asked the Evaluation Officer at the British Unidentified Flying Object Research Association,

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got to clearly say that, to comment on what's been going on.

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I'm satisfied that we have evidence from some of the various trends that are going on in the world.

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I do claim, I think it will be quite false to claim, that such evidence that we can bring it forward

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is sufficiently established, a cast-down, watertight case.

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Nevertheless, things are being seen in the skies, which, to all appearances,

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are flying machines of a very advanced technology, a technology advanced beyond our own.

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These are being seen over all the countries of the world.

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And many indirect ways too. There is an indication that something is going on,

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which is beyond the province of the normal kind of things, kind of like,

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to which happen in the sky.

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But why should they happen, particularly in Warminster?

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The warminster journalist, Mr Harper Shuttlewood, has some interesting theories about this.

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Well, I think that there could be several reasons, obviously.

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One, I think, is because it has, according to all the archaeologists and UFO researchers,

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who have been paging us, you know, since it began, it has 11 ways, that's LEYS.

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And apparently, they're an archaeological term, meaning prehistoric points of various types.

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For example, you must have a natural pound head or water spire spring.

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You must have a certain radius of either constipated run, constipated burial run,

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and of course we have a tumuli and all the arthios around here.

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And you must have a place of religious worship, a church or a sign of self worship.

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And we find that we have 11, which according to all the experts, so I gather, is unique in this world.

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In other words, it's a billion to one child.

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One child could thought to be dogmatic, and this or any other matter,

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connected with the unidentified flying objects.

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And it's very hard really to see why the prehistoric monuments of the world of primitive fares of our history

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should be associated with what can appear to be visitations by alien intelligence

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from a different level of space.

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As a journalist, I prefer a fact, obviously, and I think that it,

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the reason is simply that these humanoids from outer space,

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I think that they've been appearing spinaverically in the middle place all over the world.

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I think they're concentrated here. Let's give one town a real aerial pattering

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or a show-in team if you like, for a whole 14 months as they've done here.

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And we'll see what the reaction is then, because if we concentrate on one particular place,

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for that length of time, the whole world is bound to get to know.

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The whole world may be, but quite a number of the citizens of woman's there certainly.

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There's no shortage of people who've seen peculiar sites and heard peculiar signs.

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It is hence got the most vivid recollections.

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I was woke up really, ever these sweatsies I had, by this night.

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First of all, it was like hail. And then it got nearer onto the roof.

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And it was like a cat scratching.

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Like nearly all scratching a bench, you know, up there.

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And then I felt like I was on a motion stint.

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I'd been there for quite a while and I'd got wet half, I'd got panicky, you know.

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So I did then show how to pay the bed.

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And I looked out of the window and there wasn't a bit of rain.

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It was all dry. Everything was just trying to go in.

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But after that went over, I heard a wimpy noise and like something going,

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ooh, that was the noise it was.

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And I thought, what the hell is it?

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And I almost found a bed, of course, changing the name.

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But I was wondering if, I said, do you hear that noise?

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She said, no, nothing's all wet in the air. She might not slip again.

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So I was down downstairs, she didn't park, but she was making that waffing noise.

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You know, just like they do.

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And afterwards, when I turned around my side and I got into bed, it looked as though it was alright.

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Like the Kedbler of the Moon.

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I thought it was a bit hard for her then, but there was no plane, nothing at all inside.

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Miss Paine saw the thing late one night when they were returning to the woman's cell on Miss Paine's motorbike just before they were married.

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Well, we saw these massive sort of gifts appear from a camp of trees.

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And I took my, he was my boyfriend then, with hands on the nurses back.

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And he put the bag of broken down, you see, and he's writing, you know, idea.

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So we stood there looking at it, and they came towards us.

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And actually they struck down and we didn't know what it was.

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A few miles outside the woman's cell is the Elizabethan mansion of Longleath.

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Nigel Mingay, the son of Lord Reynard Butler, describes the thing as it came his way.

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Well, I was out one night and a friend who I know, who lives just across the road, he said he'd soon it.

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I didn't believe him, but he told me to come out, so I went out with him and we walked around for about half an hour.

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And then we were sort of looking around the sky the whole time, I hope you can see it.

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We were just on the verge of coming in, when we saw it, and it went right across the horizon.

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Yes, where is it going that bit?

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Well, the hide and seek just out here. It appeared from behind this tree, and right over the sky, it disappeared just before it got to that tree.

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And what did you feel about when you saw it?

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Well, I was surprised, not shocked, but I always had an open mind about it, but now I believe in it.

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How many other warmens do people believe in it?

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Or perhaps we ought to say how many warmens do people are willing to confess that they believe in it?

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As far as we can judge, there seem to be believers, disbelievers, and don't know, is it about equal proportions?

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And quite a number of people in each category appear to be more than a little worried about the whole business.

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How many of them openly discuss their doubts and anxieties?

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Perhaps the big person, Dennis, will have been John Freeman.

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I think in that first place, the vast majority of people almost have no interest whatsoever in this,

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and they do regard the people who answer us about it as a bit hard.

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And the parents of the three people who have the courage to see it as far as I know,

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it is not a subject which anyone has really warned up to with me.

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I think, let us so far the case, which people in the world still regard this as something which is a bit too other for the town.

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Now thought only with the Emily Nguys, who is chairman of the Women's to Council,

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they have the public meeting to get at the facts. This is what drove him to do it.

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Well, I thought there was a great deal of concern in the town.

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There was a lot of ridicule being minded around in the local newspaper,

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and I thought it would be a great idea to have a public meeting to clarify the whole situation.

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And to find out if there was any truth in the fact that the world has seen us unidentified crime objects.

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And do you think the meeting did establish this?

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No, I don't think it did at all.

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We had a very interesting meeting, but it was quite a full house.

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We had some five or seven hundred people in.

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We had some eminent people from London from the association of unidentified crime objects.

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They gave their views. We had the public who gave their views as to what they had purported to have seen.

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We had a very good meeting, little rowdy in places, but on the whole very good.

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Do you think Women's to has done well out of this, either it shops or people in general?

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No, I think it has. We had a commander's round of publicity, and this must have done a close one in the Townsend Road.

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And a good job too, I think.

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Do you think anybody had a vested interest in stirring this up in the first place?

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Only the newspapers.

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They were looking, they were for a story during the month of August, and they thought this was a good news story,

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and they played it up to the utmost.

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The story ricocheted down the world for example after the first big sighting of the area of Cigar,

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which was to the south there, and that was by the vicar and his family of H.B.

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17 young people of Warminster at the Hospital Physiotherapist Miss Long,

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a hall up who described two flaming red pokers, which is rather graphic of course,

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but I could see what they meant. Having seen the thing myself now,

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I think I can see what they meant by that description.

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Now, would you tell us exactly what you did see?

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Well, I saw this was being dealt with on my mind because it was 3.42 p.m. on the last Tuesday,

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that's September 28th, the last Tuesday of September,

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and I was going upstairs, we lived in rather a higher flat over in monumental nations.

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They called us there, they said,

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they were here because we had the hospital, doctors, undertaker,

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and then we were in monumental nations next door.

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But apart from that, no card observation.

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I went upstairs and I was completing a story for a magazine which is coming out in April

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on a woman lion tamer, who could also tame all sorts of jungle cats in the same cage,

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married to Pfeil to probably have.

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And I went up for my notes, but my attention was arrested by this huge cigar shape in the sky.

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Now, had I normally been walking underneath that,

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I'm sure it would have assumed a proportion to nothing but a dense white cloud.

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But from the angle of vision that I have in the top of our house,

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I could see a peculiar hump, a yellow or amber burnished protrusion from the top.

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And I've never seen anything like this in my life,

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and it was nine months after the rest thing started.

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I don't see the only I've been conditioned to all that extent,

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arrived at the center of the vortex of this mystery,

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let's face it, of this mystery.

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But I wasn't convinced, even in spite of the high caliber of witnesses,

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I wasn't convinced that this thing existed.

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But I still risked with my own eyes, I got straight away from camera,

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I got the camera lined up, and the setting was about eight,

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it was a beautiful clear afternoon.

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Out of the window, this thing came along over Col away Club,

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which is over there, northwest, to southeast,

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gliding along a gentle giant in the sky.

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I'd pray my camera on it, and I thought the camera jumping about in my hands.

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That was the first unusual aspect.

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It didn't frighten me, but I felt like sharp prickly needles

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down that side of the hand, the wrist, that side of the face,

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and I watered for two months afterwards on that side.

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That was the exposed side to this thing.

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Now that proved to me that life was on board, or who it was on board.

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Could see me, could see this apparatus of mine,

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it threw out some concentrated force field.

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I'm quite serious about this, which was a deliberate intent

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of gumming up the camera, and of course they succeeded

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because nothing developed from 25 feet of film, except an 8 feet portion,

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to write through.

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That's all I had on my camera.

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If you're trying to make a major impact on the thing they want to do,

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it's possible for visibility.

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Why should they want them to gum up the camera?

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Well, I think the reason that struck me at the time,

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my wristwatch incidentally stopped at it,

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and didn't make a decision to laugh afterwards,

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I don't think that they're so wide perhaps about photography,

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but if they're thousands of years advanced, you know, over us,

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and they've learned perhaps thousands of years ago to outlaw war,

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and you notice that the heaviest sightings of these people on this earth

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are just preceding a world war, or some nuclear experimentation,

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some danger threshold shall we say.

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If that's the case, and they saw the camera there,

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was to prevent them being at no more than half a mile up at that time, I'm sure.

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Thinking automatically is one of those crazy old men, and he's got a gun on us.

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I think that that's, it's a fear that they have that I might have opened up on them,

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you know, with a machine gun.

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For all they knew, I think that's why they come down.

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But known photographer, Mr. Gordon Faustman, said better luck.

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He managed to take a big trip of flying saucer that hit the British press in a big way,

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and then went round the world.

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Mr. Portler, in fact, has done much to put women still on the flying saucer map.

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This is how he got his picture.

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I had a camera with me, I was taking anything to my sister, I wanted to follow it,

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and, well, I was just saying, I just had a camera with me, and pure luck, I just,

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and then I took a picture.

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The object was staying still all this time, was it always in our, we were moving,

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but moving slowly, I was moving very fast, I wouldn't know how fast, but I couldn't say how fast.

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Now, some people have said that when they've tried to take a picture of one of these things,

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there's been some mysterious force or radiation that's stopped camera from working.

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Did you find this?

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We can, something like that, I can't remember.

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Have you had people say that this picture is a fake?

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Of course I know, yes.

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I mean, what do you say to them when they say that?

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They're entitled to the hand of opinion, I know it's not a fake,

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and it doesn't really bother me what other people think.

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Some people, nonetheless, are distinctly bothered.

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Colonel Allen, for instance, I think they're all drunk a lot of nonsense.

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Why do you say that?

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Well, at the beginning there isn't a single authenticated sighting by somebody who's,

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shall we say, in the holophide to give an impartial scientific assessment of the sighting.

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Now, you believe, I think, that it's possible to fake photographs of these objects fairly easily.

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In fact, you've done it yourself.

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Yes, have you done this?

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Yes.

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Well, I had one telephone left on a reel, and I produced this.

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This is exactly what?

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Well, the flying object was actually drawn on a piece of paper and cut out in outline,

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and then photographed against a blue bath towel on the ground,

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whilst I stood on a stepladder leaning against the wall of the house,

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and I moved the camera slightly as I took the photograph, so it's a brother thing.

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And what are the reactions of the believers to this photograph?

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Well, no, I kept it fairly quiet because I had intended originally to bring it out,

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whilst admitting it was a fake.

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Next time, the thing grew up.

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So I'm sure it will do.

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In fact, it is to ensure reserved weapons, you could say that.

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Do you think it's possible that some of the normal and accountable things that go on from the army's point of view

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and the accountable that's laying could be confused for these objects?

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In some cases, yes, you do get the most extraordinary noises,

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and of course there's a lot of activity, quite a lot of it at night.

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When the forces are running, there's a large number of night operations.

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I would like it to be over my head and hang down the army, I wish they'd shut up and go to the police.

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In bed or out, Miss Anderson had both feet right on the ground.

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She's no intention of being taken in by any talk of visitors from other planets.

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That's enough. I'm not at one morning, looking like I'm in a bedroom window.

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And we had got army in green camouflage jackets,

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which were leaves in their steel helmets,

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jumping around the FHRs and the woody beds beyond.

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We put them all over the green men, I suppose.

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Now what do you think about this?

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General Mystique has developed about these objects around here.

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And I think it's a pity that so many people are ready to make categorical statements

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about the thing that nobody has bothered to investigate.

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As far as I have been able to discover,

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there has been no coordinated observation,

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no scientific inquiry as to what's happening.

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Various individuals have seen various things and have immediately gone their own conclusions.

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Well, if there's anything going on in that kind of thing, I'd like to know what it is.

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If there's any hundred people in there, instead of from Venus, not anywhere,

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how can we come near my own reasons?

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We'd like to know them.

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And if it's given people some sort of like,

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with a trace of their own, they must go on with the whole thing.

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I'm confused what this is for.

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I'm very excited. It's very erratic and weird to get that.

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But is it a start? No, it doesn't.

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And then, if we leave as it was,

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there's always definitely something for them.

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I believe in it because, well, those who haven't seen it,

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don't believe it, those who have, they don't know how to believe it.

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It's a thing for them.

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Those who see, believe, those who don't see Scott,

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don't believe it.

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Don't believe it, I think, is something that's not proven.

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I don't believe they exist until they are actually proven.

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I was saying, you know, I mean,

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to construct a fossil is, I think,

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is something to explain it to.

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But this is the fact. I haven't seen it.

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I haven't seen it until, as a matter of fact,

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we're coming out of the same one next.

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We're planning rather fast.

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So just over time, we're going to know that it's stopped.

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It appears to be round to me.

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But I might have to try it the wrong way.

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I don't think I've ever thought that I would care to do so.

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And then when we got home, she explained to me,

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this is the thing she had seen herself before.

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I don't know if you want to make a stop here,

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but I, myself, have only seen the movement of it.

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It's a terrific, just terrific speed.

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That's all I can tell her.

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And I've heard it in, it doesn't bother me.

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I'm Christian. I don't care about that.

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Have you seen anything else since?

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Yes, I had seen it once.

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Well, I think if you want to say that,

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I've seen something else from the text window.

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It was a type of thing.

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Then it was swaying.

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Did it miss its frame?

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You have to say it. It had the red light as well.

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I've seen it.

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What full of faith did it have?

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Well, you know, it's, um,

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it's a kind of thing.

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You can't really describe it.

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It's between those two bungalows.

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There's a bear.

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I saw this thing.

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It is very bright white.

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That's what it was called, stone shape.

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Now, that's a good one.

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Mrs. Atwell, a pilot's wife, had a most moving experience,

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after which she'll never feel quite the same again.

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The most folksy.

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No, you're not.

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You're not a sound fairy.

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Never had anything like it before.

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Never.

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No.

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No.

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That's why I can't understand why I'm not a good fairy.

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Because I'm not a night sleeper.

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I have sleep sickness.

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But many, many good.

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Even though little boy was fast asleep,

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I went into the ceiling.

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I was too frightened, ready to sleep.

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I should not forget it.

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And I'd like to hear it again,

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just to see if my reaction would be the same.

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I had mentioned it to people,

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before they approached me on this subject.

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But then I stopped telling people,

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because they laughed at me.

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You know, I thought, oh, what's the point?

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You know, they don't believe.

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You've got to see it, to be able to tell you things.

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I'm not a religious thought person.

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I believe in God, but I'm not a religious thought person.

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But I don't think I should be so ready to match it.

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Anyone who spoke about these social things now,

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as I have in the past.

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And I think a lot of people, when I recap on their stories,

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they have that same sensation,

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that they feel better,

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perhaps not physically,

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but mainly and spiritually particularly,

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they want to achieve something for the benefit of mankind.

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I don't think I ever have.

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But would you do a good feeling,

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that's inculcated in you, by this experience, I think?

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Would it be going too far to say that you feel

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you've had something like a religious experience?

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Yes, I don't think that would be exaggerating.

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You do, you seem to have a new outlook,

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a new mental outlook on life,

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and you want to help people.

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This is most peculiar perhaps,

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and it's almost incredible to you to know that.

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But I felt that sensation,

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and I wanted to see it again,

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and I wanted to convince people on board,

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that we weren't antagonistic,

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and that we wanted to really welcome them,

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if they cared to learn.

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And of course they have learned it,

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they have learned it.

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How much does this sort of thing worry people in Warminster?

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The church should know quite a lot about this.

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Few people, just they have told it,

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but personally,

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it wasn't any sort of worry.

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I have had one man who came

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to ask me what I felt of the thing,

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and said, I have to tell you,

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no answer to him was,

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whether or not the thing was a real thing.

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It did not take me to relevant

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to the end of the judgment.

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And now that I have it,

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I have to tell you,

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did you have any time to prove to what he was saying,

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or did you take it dead seriously?

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I took it seriously,

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but since the team in search was dead serious,

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and the verdicts that I have to respect

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for what he said,

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but this attitude is one which I find

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very difficult to cross the line to,

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and I think the speaking for any case

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is as the God bless and he says,

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a strong and strong country person

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who had been in haven't told me since they

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have parishly assorted the plane.

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He feels most of the happenings

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have a rational explanation.

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There is probably a lot of,

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for my people, just around about Warminster,

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and should have come forward in the way they have.

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And I should say that most of the people

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who have not lived there for a long time,

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to our right people going near London Airport

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for the first time, they are very well

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by the tremendous noise of the jet engines,

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but people who have lived there all their lives,

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just don't know this one now.

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One night my wife and I were driving across

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in the dark on these very open roads,

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they also have the best hoses on the hand,

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and we just got banged,

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and suddenly coming from the direction

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of the dark hill, we saw a sort of large red flame,

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and it seemed to be just sort of heat-hopping,

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and going up and down,

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and then from sideway, from sideway,

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I don't know, suddenly it squirred towards us,

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and I put my foot on it.

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So I was going, I was right there,

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and we stood over here,

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and away it went, where I don't know,

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but that's the sort of thing that if a guided missile does,

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or a get-out of touch with those who are specially controlling it,

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it could happen.

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That's where the vanishing might come down,

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and feel the burn out,

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and anybody looking out at night and seeing it,

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no wonder what a wonderful flame and smoke,

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and no one is wild.

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It's the innest, most holy deals with people

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who believe these things come from outer space.

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Two ladies worked for me,

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from under the desk in Bristol,

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and they said they were walking on a hill,

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high in the outside, war-minister,

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and suddenly without any warning from the wind nearby,

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two of the strangest little flying machines they'd ever seen,

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suddenly shot up into the air with a quick noise,

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and flames and smoke, and they disappeared right up,

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away they went over the horizon.

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And they were so astonished that they thought they must be seeing anything,

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but they'd like to mention it,

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and they did take a trouble to sit down and write about this.

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And in that connection, I want to say what they saw, I'm sure,

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is what has already been shown on the film BBC,

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the film that came to the United States,

471
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of these one-man helicopters that are jet-propelled as well,

472
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you have a road road ahead, and the man has it stepped on his back.

473
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And I met another man later on, as I said,

474
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so just now he actually saw one of these come down alongside his car,

475
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and he stopped, and he saw the man put on a map,

476
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consult the map, see where he was,

477
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
he drove it up again, put it in his pocket,

478
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looked about in the way, he went up in a sheet of clay.

479
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Now that was right in the life of anybody if they didn't know what it was,

480
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and the stories about men coming from outer space would be

481
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almost justified in that case if you didn't know what it was.

482
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
So there is nothing to worry about.

483
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After all, none of these seems to kill anybody yet,

484
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or so I don't know, injures them, except perhaps the lay people

485
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that were taking part in them, and then you don't hear very much about that.

486
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So would you go so far as to encourage ordinary people

487
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that think these did come from outer space,

488
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so that the services can carry on with their experience

489
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in behind the corner space?

490
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No, not a bit.

491
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I wouldn't hear that, that would be the section, wouldn't it?

492
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I would simply say, look, you've seen something that perhaps

493
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000
you weren't supposed to say, I can assure you that there's no danger from it,

494
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and if you say it again, just remember that it's really in your own interest

495
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and in the interest of this country that these things are happening,

496
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just go to sleep on it, and don't worry about it.

497
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I'm personally, my message to the people of Warminster

498
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is don't forget that you live on the edge of perimeter

499
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of an experimental area, where I'm doing experiments,

500
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in connection with the first phase of the process.

501
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Now you very honestly don't believe anyone.

502
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Why do you believe that some people seem to need to believe in them?

503
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000
I don't say I don't believe in them.

504
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I say that there is not sufficient evidence available

505
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,000
to know that one is believing or not believing in.

506
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
There's too much willy and hysterical speculation,

507
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:47,000
which has been given too much publicity by the press and radio and television.

508
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Thank you.